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Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:55 am

My favorite Rachmaninov story was when an interviewer asked him what pianists of the present day he thought were up to the job.
(Short silence.) "Well, there's Hofmann." (Longer silence.) "Then there's me." (Very long silence.)
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Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:14 am

https://youtu.be/ICX-1VGvUpY

Relax with Stacey Kent.
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:48 pm

"It was like a silk slip feathering to earth from the body of a beautiful woman while she danced."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZfM2x-0z3Y
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:19 pm

Ah, the Sixties, glad I didn't miss them, but I miss them...Mina!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_lWaXxl1Qo


Lo stupore della notte
Spalancata
Sul mar
Ci sorprese che eravamo sconosciuti io e te
Poi nel buio le tue mani
D'improvviso
Sulle mie
É cresciuto troppo in fretta
Questo nostro
Amor

Se telefonando io potessi dirti addio
Ti chiamerei
Se io rivedendoti fossi certa che non soffri
Ti rivedrei
Se guardandoti negli occhi sapessi dirti basta
Ti guarderei

Ma non so spiegarti
Che il nostro amore appena nato
È già finito
Se telefonando io volessi dirti addio
Ti chiamerei
Se io rivedendoti fossi certa che non soffri
Ti rivedrei

Se guardandoti negli occhi sapessi dirti basta
Ti guarderei
Ma non so spiegarti
Che il nostro amore appena nato
È già finito
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:43 pm

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Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:31 am

I never knew Baglioni did a version of this song....what a voice..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLNfyzg94AQ
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:51 am

Tonight, a student (well, a very good final-year DPhil) is leading a salute to Martin Luther's important 500th.

A bunch of motets, then Brandenburg 1 and Mendelssohn 5. It's been prepared quickly-- I was only told about it last Thursday-- but the group is quite good and it is my first real exposure to the Reformation Symphony. Not profound, but clever, well-crafted, and worth getting to know.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:38 pm

alden wrote:I never knew Baglioni did a version of this song....what a voice..
Baglioni! Easily 10 years I had not played him. Thank you.
It seems that all the relevant Italian pop singers of the last 40 years (Celentano, Dalla, Zucchero, Battisti, Ramazzotti, Villa, Di Bari, Cotugno, Ranieri, etc.) follow exactly the same school and the same style of projecting their grainy voice and raspy breathing. Is it the Barolo? :)
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:53 pm

My current favorite Italian singer is Mario Biondi from Catania, Sicily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR5PEvIC6B4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al89htZpd4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcXAbs3EXDs

But to answer your question, most Italian singers use traditional (operatic) signing techniques...they sing from the diaphragm, from deep down. The modern Anglo-Saxon singers use falsetto technique, sound from vibration in the head with no deep breathing..its closest to speech. they talk loudly as opposed to singing. And, as a consequence, they have that nasal, tinny, whining tone that, frankly speaking, is unaesthetic, and cannot transmit real emotion. "Its all in their head." The classic American singers like Bing and Sinatra were classical singers, they sang from the gut.

I am not an expert on the subject, but I did study classical singing recently for three years with a former Baritone opera/Broadway singer in NYC. I got to where I could sing a few Baritone arias from the operatic repertoire as well as having great fun with all the Cole Porter etc songs and Brel ballads I love. A real singer has to learn how to breathe way down deep and "allow" the sound to happen by itself; an actor has to learn to act from his guts in a very similar way. Pavarotti used the imaging of an immense wine barrel around his body, from his chest extending to his diaphragm, and with his breathing he imagined filling that huge space with air. That is the way I was taught to sing, from the diaphragm. It produces a deeper more emotive sound than the nasal technique of US male pop singers. After this, the quality or timbre or character of the human voice can come out in any particular way and each human voice is different, a finger print.

A raspy quality of voice would have kept the guys from being Opera stars, but they made more money in Pop. :D

Cheers
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:39 pm

Thank you, Michael, for your answer. The Barolo would have been a magical short cut; operatic techniques take so much work....
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:51 am

The legendary Milva, La Rossa.....spettacolare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of84p0PbpP0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIgg47aF_18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViH-NU4pKmE

PS: For those of you who do not know who played the Califfa, here she is, the immortal beauty many of us miss to this very day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puA5VvaZHkQ

Cheers
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:46 am

https://youtu.be/yUezUNkbAc8

Something to consider …
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:06 am

UC, this one sounds like U2, doesn't it?
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:07 am

Yes, Mark Lanegan here does sound a lot like U2 now that you mention it.
This 52 year old American, out of Seattle, Washington also reminds me of Leonard Cohen.
But he certainly is an original in his own right.
His music can be soporific until you wake up and listen to his lyrics.
And then nod off again.
But I find his presence and voice and music interesting.
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